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Pune and Mumbai, 23rd July - 25th July 2007
Pakistan - India People's Forum for Peace and Democracy along with Peace Mumbai had organized public meetings on 'Democratic Aspirations of Pakistan' in Pune and Mumbai on the 24th July and 25th July 2007, respectively. We had invited noted Human Rights Activist and UN Special Rapporteur on Freedom of Religion and Belief Asma Jahangir and Retd Supreme Court Judge of Pakistan Justice Nasir Aslam Zahid.
Pakistan is passing through a critical phase of its history. Military Dictatorship has deeply entrenched and people are disillusioned. In such a situation fundamentalist and conservative elements try to fill the void. People at large and civil society are trapped in between. The voice of the people got a necessary outlet when legal fraternity with the active support of the people of Pakistan strived against unwarranted and arbitrary suspension of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, Iftikhar Chaudhary by Presidential order on 9th March, 07. Since then people in general and legal fraternity in particular has waged a struggle for the reinstatement of Justice Chaudhary and restoration of democracy and independence of Judiciary through regime change.
With this background, to get necessary support from the civil society on the other side of the border, two public meetings and two interactions with civil society, both in Pune and Mumbai, one lecture session for the academicians and students at Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS) and Meet the Press at Mumbai and Pune, were organized.
Pune 24th July 2007
Asma Jahangir and Justice (Retd.) Nasir Aslam Zahid were in Pune on
24th July 2007. Prominent academics and activists of the city attended
their 1st meeting in Pune and Dr. Jayant Narlikar, Internationally
acclaimed Astronomist was one of the main figures.
Later in the afternoon they spoke at meet-the-press programme organized
by Pune Union of Working Journalists (PUWJ). Both of them criticised
the Military regime of Pakistan. Justice Zahid specially talked about
the concerns of the common people in Pakistan about the nexus between
militants and the military authorities in Pakistan. President Pervez
Musharraf will have to shed the military uniform as the people were in
no mood to allow the continuation of military regime.
Asma said the movement in Pakistan for the restoration of
democracy-needed solidarity of people across the world. She said that
during Agra talks, India gave a grand welcome to military ruler as if
he was Nelson Mandela. Dictators across the world are talking the
language of human rights. She opined that they in Pakistan just want a
democratic government.
"Even in Lal Masjid case, many questions were remained unanswered. How
did arms enter the Masjid and who was financing the Masjid authorities?
Terrorism is a genuine threat and one cannot depend on the military to
tackle it as military itself has links with terrorism," Said Asma.
She was confident that former Prime Ministers Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz
Sharif will return to Pakistan soon and participate in the election.
Replying to a question she said," Politics has its role. One cannot
deny the role of Politicians. Politics is part of life. May be Benazir
and Nawaz will change their style. It's a process by which a new
leadership will emerge."
Later in the evening they addressed a public meeting at S M Joshi
Socialist Foundation. Ms Manisha Gupte of MASUM chaired the meeting.
Justice said that they do not request India's support but they demand
it. The meeting was well attended.
Mumbai 25th July 2007
The meeting in Mumbai was also co-organised by St. Xavier's College in
their auditorium, which was attended by more than 500 people from all
walks of life. Introducing the meeting the Principal of St. Xavier
College Fr. Fraser welcomed the guests Asma Jahangir and Justice Nasir
Aslam Zahid with the words that they had become the epitome of struggle
for democracy and protection of Human Rights.
Mr. Jatin Desai a member of PIPFPD and Peace Mumbai welcomed the guests
for their resolute spirit for fighting the rights and dignity of the
marginalized, women and the minorities and other sections of the
society in Pakistan. He stated that the idea behind organizing such
programme was to bring forward South Asian identity. He expected that
Indian people would certainly extend their supporting hand for such a
valued cause.
While moderating the programme Professor Pushpa Bhave spoke high about
their contribution especially of Asma Jahangir towards Rights and
dignity of the underprivileged and other lesser mortals. Admiral L.
Ramdas shared his experience about the peace initiatives taken by the
peace lovers of both countries when there were no diplomatic
relationships and they had to go to Pakistan and vice-versa via Dubai.
But they clanged on to the peace process, which was the only
alternative to see the problems of the people of the respective
countries redressed and their quality of lives enhanced. He stated
clearly that there was no substitute for democracy and the major part
of the 6o years of Pakistan have been coloured with military
dictatorship. He showed approval that the Supreme Court courageous act
on reinstating suspended Justice Iftikhar Chaudhary, which should be
applauded and considered a victory of people's movement. He aspired
that the docile attitude of the civil society in India could be broken
and they would come out with the support of democratic movement in
Pakistan and else where. 'Time has come to see that the leaders are
chosen by the people rather people could be chosen by the leaders' was
his parting remark.
Justice Nazir Aslam Zahid shared his understanding of the recent
democratic upsurge felt in Pakistan after the unceremonious suspension
of the Justice Iftikhar when Bar Council of the country came out in
full-throated support against such an undemocratic decision. It was
really spontaneous and overwhelming response from legal fraternity
backed by the people. The magnitude of the civil society support can be
very well gauged by the fact that the 4-hour journey of Justice
Iftikhar Chaudhury from Islamabad to Lahore took him 27 hours due to
the crowd on the streets greeting and congratulating him for his fight
for democracy and supporting his reinstatement.
He also stated the present people's movement was a good omen because
for the last 7 years no political parties have been able to gather this
kind of popular support, in opposition to the dictatorship. He lamented
the incident at Lal Masjid where according to Government estimates 102
people died including the police and the military but various
organisations claim that probably more than 1500 were killed, which
could have been tackled in a more salubrious manner and at least in
this way bloodshed could have been avoided. He also stated that why
intelligence failed when ISI headquarter was hardly 1 KM away and why
suddenly the dialogue was declared failed, all these aspects needed to
be enquired. Human Right's Activists' are demanding for an Enquiry
Committee to be set up to understand the real issues behind the Lal
Masjid episode. He asserted that people's aspirations had been raised
through this movement and hopes of the people for better world had been
rejuvenated which could not be stifled. He stated that the problems
were rooted in the combination of Mush and Bush. Both deserved to be
dethroned, he averred.
Human Rights Activist Asma Jahangir, stated that military was part of
the problem rather than the solution. Their fights were for the
paramount of dignity and self-respect of all Pakistanis. Their struggle
was for rule of law, liberty and qualitatively amelioration of the
deprived and marginalized, she asserted. People should be empowered and
participate in the democratic process. They wanted the military
dictator to go and democracy and for that matter sovereignty of the
people should be restored. It was the source of rejuvenation that
people were at the forefront of the present movement. 'Policy should be
rooted in the democratic aspirations of the people' she asserted. She
stated that military used indiscriminate forces against their own
people, as they all knew what had been going on in Baluchistan. They
also used Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM one of the ruling party in the
federal government) cadres in Karachi when the people were attacked and
42 precious lives were lost. Although election was not everything for
democracy but it was vital that was why they demanded free and fair
elections under a caretaker government unlike what happened in 2002
when elections were heavily rigged, she demanded.
She stated that it was fallacy to think that military had been fighting
against militancy rather they strengthened militancy because of
immunity and unaccountability. Action at the behest of USA must be
stopped. She categorically said that dress and a lifestyle should not
be imposed on any individual but it should be a personal choice. She
was very forthright in her criticism against the religious hardliners
and made it clear to the audience that removal of Musharraf does not
mean the coming of the mullahs, "the Pakistani people will not let this
happen". She vehemently proclaimed that they would win the battle of
democracy in her country, may be not in a year or two year but
certainly that day was not far off. She urged in the end with the
people to support the lawyers movement for democracy in Pakistan.
The programme was concluded with the people's queries and expression of support towards the grand cause.
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